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Currently I'm reading going down theorem from Atiyah and Macdonald's Commutative Algebra text. I'm trying to find a counterexample if the conditions of the theorem are not satisfied. There is a hint in my class notes about counterexample but I'm unable to complete this. Hint goes as follows:

Let $R= \dfrac{\mathbb R[x,y,z]}{(y^2-x^2-x^3)}$. Let $S$ be the integral closure of $R$ in its quotient field. Show that going down theorem does not hold between $R$ and $S$.

I've computed the ring $S$ and this turns out to be the ring $S=R[\frac {y}{x}]$. Any hints/ideas to "guess" the chain of prime ideals for which GD theorem does not hold.

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Note that $R\simeq\mathbb R[t^2-1,t^3-t,z]$ by $x\mapsto t^2-1$, $y\mapsto t^3-t$, $z\mapsto z$, and $S=\mathbb R[t,z]$.

Now I change the notation and set $S=k[t]$, and $R=k[t^2-1,t^3-t]$. (Note that $R=\{f\in k[t]:f(-1)=f(1)\}$.) Moreover, $S[z]$ is the integral closure of $R[z]$ since $S$ is the integral closure of $R$. To show that Going-Down fails for $R[z]\subset S[z]$ consider the prime ideals $\mathfrak p=(z-t-1)\cap R[z]$ and $Q=(t-1,z)\subset S[z]$.

We show that $Q$ lies over $\mathfrak q=(t^2-1,t^3-t,z)\supseteq\mathfrak p$, but $S[z]$ has no prime in $Q$ lying over $\mathfrak p$.

Observe that we also have $(t+1,z)\cap R[z]=\mathfrak q$, so $\mathfrak p\subseteq\mathfrak q$. Since $z\in\mathfrak q\setminus\mathfrak p$ the inclusion is strict. Suppose there is $P\subset Q$ lying over $\mathfrak p$. Then $P$ is principal generated by an irreducible polynomial, say $f$, and $f(1,0)=0$. We have $(f)\cap R[z]=(z-t-1)\cap R[z]$. Since $(t^2-1)(z-t-1)\in(z-t-1)\cap R[z]$ it follows that $(t^2-1)(z-t-1)\in(f)$, so $f\mid(t^2-1)(z-t-1)$. From $f(1,0)=0$ we get the only possibility $f=t-1$. Now $(t^2-1)(t-1)\in(f)\cap R[z]$, so $(t^2-1)(t-1)\in(z-t-1)$, a contradiction.

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  • Everything seems fine to me. I've some doubts: $1.$ How did you "guess" that $R={f\in k[t]:f(-1)=f(1)}$ although I don't think that you have used this in your solution. $2.$ Is there any reason for choosing $p$ and $Q$ in this particular way? – Arpit Kansal Nov 14 '15 at 11:24
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  • Actually I've used that description of $R$ for few times, but I guess one can skip it. (I've just borrowed it from the other examples on the failure of GD.) 2. Well, here is where the geometry can help us, and I gave you a link to some notes where this is explained. Algebraically there are two prime (maximal) ideals $Q_1,Q_2$ in $S[z]$ lying over the same prime $\mathfrak q$ in $R[z]$, and $\mathfrak q$ contains another prime $\mathfrak p$ which comes from $S[z]$ uniquely, that is, only one prime $P$ from $S[z]$ lies over $\mathfrak p$, and $P\subset Q_2$, but $P\not\subset Q_1$.)
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