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If $ \ \ a ,b \ \ $and $\ \ c \ \ $ are roots of $ \ \ f(x) = x^3 -4x^2 + 6x + k \ \ $

and $ \frac{1}{a^2 + b^2} + \frac{1}{b^2 + c^2} + \frac{1}{a^2 + c^2} = 1 \ \ \ \ $then find the value of $ \ k $

I have to tell you honestly that I cannot solve this question or find the way to get value of $ \ k$

I started with $(a + b +c)^2 = a^2 + b^2 + c^2 + 2(ab+bc+ac) \ \ $ $\Rightarrow a^2 + b^2 + c^2 = 4$

then $a^3 +b^3 + c^3 = (a+b+c)(a^2 + b^2 +c^2) - (ab+bc+ac)(a+b+c) + 3abc$

$ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ a^3 +b^3 + c^3 = -8 + 3k$

apply to $(a+b+c)^3 = a^3 + b^3 + c^3 + 3(a+b)(b+c)(a+c)$

$ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ 72 -3k = 3(a+b)(b+c)(a+c)$

finally , I don't know how relation between $ \frac{1}{a^2 + b^2} + \frac{1}{b^2 + c^2} + \frac{1}{a^2 + c^2} = 1 \ \ $ and $(a+b)(b+c)(a+c)$

Please tell me the way to solve this question correctly.

thank you in advance.

ABCDEFG user157844
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Let $\alpha^3-U\alpha^2+V\alpha-W$ have roots $x$, $y$, $z$, then $U=x+y+z$ $V=xy+xz+yz$ and $W=xyz$. Notice that: $$ \frac{1}{x^2+y^2}+\frac{1}{x^2+z^2}+\frac{1}{y^2+z^2}=\frac{x^4+3 x^2 y^2+3 x^2 z^2+y^4+3 y^2 z^2+z^4}{\left(x^2+y^2\right) \left(x^2+z^2\right) \left(y^2+z^2\right)} $$ And: $$ x^4 + 3 x^2 y^2 + y^4 + 3 x^2 z^2 + 3 y^2 z^2 + z^4=(x+y+z)^4-4 (x y+x z+y z) (x+y+z)^2-2 x y z (x+y+z)+5 (x y+x z+y z)^2= $$ $$ =U^4-4VU^2+2WU+5V^2 $$ $$ (x^2 + y^2) (x^2 + z^2) (y^2 + z^2)= $$ $$ -x^2 y^2 z^2-2 x y z (x+y+z)^3+(x y+x z+y z)^2 (x+y+z)^2+4 x y z (x y+x z+y z) (x+y+z)-2 (x y+x z+y z)^3= $$ $$ =-2 U^3 W+U^2 V^2+4 U V W-2 V^3-W^2 $$ These identities come from the general technique. (Look up elementary symmetric polynomials) So we have: $$ \frac{U^4-4 U^2 V-2 U W+5 V^2}{-2 U^3 W+U^2 V^2+4 U V W-2 V^3-W^2}=\beta $$ Which should be solved for $W$. The soluton is: $$ W=\frac{2 \beta U V+U-\beta U^3\pm\sqrt{\beta^2 \left(U^2-2 V\right) \left(U^2-V\right)^2+U^2+\beta \left(-3 U^4+8 U^2 V-5 V^2\right)}}{\beta } $$ In your case, this gives $-12\pm2\sqrt{59}$.

asomog
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HINTS to find $k^2$: Let $x=a^2+b^2$, $y=b^2+c^2$, $z=c^2+a^2$. Then $xy+yz+zx=(a^2+b^2+c^2)^2$ and you also know $xyz$ and $x+y+z$. Thus you know everything about $x,y,z$. Now $8a^2b^2c^2=(x+y-z)(x-y+z)(-x+y+z)$ and the R.H.S. is a symmetric polynomial in $x,y,z$, so you can find $a^2b^2c^2$.

Aravind
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Let $a,b,c$ be the roots of $p(x)=x^3-4x^2+6x+k$. By Viète's theorem we have $a+b+c=4$ and $ab+ac+bc=6$, hence $a^2+b^2+c^2 = (a+b+c)^2-2(ab+ac+bc)=4$ and we know that $$ \frac{1}{4-a^2}+\frac{1}{4-b^2}+\frac{1}{4-c^2}=1. \tag{1}$$ The following polynomial vanishes over $a^2,b^2,c^2$: $$ q(x) = -p(\sqrt{x})p(-\sqrt{x}) = x^3-4x^2+(36+8k)x-k^2 \tag{2}$$ and $a^2-4,b^2-4,c^2-4$ are roots of $r(x)=q(x+4)$, i.e. of: $$ r(x) = x^3+8 x^2+\color{green}{(8k+52)}x-\color{blue}{(k^2-32k-144)}\tag{3}$$ so, always by Viète's theorem, $$ \frac{1}{4-a^2}+\frac{1}{4-b^2}+\frac{1}{4-c^2} = \frac{-\color{green}{(8k+52)}}{\color{blue}{k^2-32k-144}}=1\tag{4}$$ and that leads to:

$$ k = \color{red}{2\left(6\pm \sqrt{59}\right)}.\tag{4} $$

Jack D'Aurizio
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We know: $a+b+c=4, ab+bc+ca=6, abc=-k$

Using the condition and $a^2+b^2+c^2=4$ you can get that: $\frac{1}{a^2+b^2}+\frac{1}{b^2+c^2}+\frac{1}{c^2+a^2}=1=\frac{1}{4-c^2}+\frac{1}{4-a^2}+\frac{1}{4-b^2}\Leftrightarrow -a^2b^2c^2+4(a^2b^2+b^2c^2+c^2a^2)-16(a^2+b^2+c^2)+64=a^2b^2+b^2c^2+c^2a^2-8(a^2+b^2+c^2)+48 \Leftrightarrow a^2b^2c^2-3(a^2b^2+b^2c^2+c^2a^2)+8(a^2+b^2+c^2)-16=0$

Now: $a^2b^2+b^2c^2+c^2a^2=(ab+bc+ca)^2-2abc(a+b+c)=36+8k$

$k^2-3(36+8k)+32-16=0$

$k^2-24k-92=0$

$k_{1,2}=12\pm2\sqrt{59}$

CryoDrakon
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