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$$\text{If}\; \sqrt{9-8\sin 50^\circ} = a+b\csc 50^\circ\text{, then}\; ab=\text{?}$$

$\bf{My\; Try::}$ We can write above question as $$\sin 50^\circ\sqrt{9-8\sin 50^\circ} = a\sin 50^\circ+b$$

Now for Left side, $$\sin 50^\circ\sqrt{9-8\sin 50^\circ} = \sqrt{9\sin^250^\circ-8\sin^350^{\circ}}$$

Now How can i solve it after that , Help required, Thanks

Ian Miller
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juantheron
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    On the left hand side, we have a constant. Let it be $k$ for simplicity, then $k=a+b \csc 50^{\circ}$. Isn't this an equation for a straight line? Then the values of $a,b$ can't be fixed. $ab$ should vary. What am I missing here? – lEm Oct 30 '16 at 04:07
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    Do you mean integers $a$ and $b$? – Christopher Boo Oct 30 '16 at 04:37
  • http://math.stackexchange.com/questions/359594/find-this-a-b-c-such-that-sqrt9-8-sin-50-circ-ab-sin-c-circ – lab bhattacharjee Nov 02 '16 at 06:44

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If you use the formula for the triple angle:

$-8\sin^3(50)=2\sin(150)-6\sin(50)=1-6\sin(50)$

so your last square root becomes

$\sqrt{9\sin^2(50)-6\sin(50)+1}=\sqrt{(3\sin(50)-1)^2}=3\sin(50)-1$

as the last expression is positive. So:

$3\sin(50)-1=a\sin(50)+b$

Now if $a$ and $b$ are rational/integer, we have $a=3$, $b=-1$ so $ab=-3$ but in the case of real numbers there is no unique solution. For example if $a=0,b=3\sin(50)-1$ we have $ab=0$

In any case, the last equation is much simpler to work out than the first one :)

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$$\sqrt{9-8\sin 50^\circ}$$

$$=\csc50^\circ\sqrt{9\sin^250^\circ-8\sin^350^\circ}$$

$$(\text{using }\sin^2x=1-\cos^x)$$

$$=\csc50^\circ\sqrt{9\sin^250^\circ-8\sin50^\circ(1-\cos^250^\circ)}$$

$$=\csc50^\circ\sqrt{9\sin^250^\circ-8\sin50^\circ+8\sin50^\circ\cos^250^\circ}$$

$$(\text{using }2\sin x\cos x=\sin2x)$$

$$=\csc50^\circ\sqrt{9\sin^250^\circ-8\sin50^\circ+4\sin100^\circ\cos50^\circ}$$

$$(\text{using }2\sin x\cos y=\sin(x+y)-\sin(x-y))$$

$$=\csc50^\circ\sqrt{9\sin^250^\circ-8\sin50^\circ+2(\sin150^\circ+\sin50^\circ)}$$

$$=\csc50^\circ\sqrt{9\sin^250^\circ-6\sin50^\circ+2\sin150^\circ}$$

$$(\text{using }\sin150^\circ=\sin30^\circ=\frac{1}{2})$$

$$=\csc50^\circ\sqrt{9\sin^250^\circ-6\sin50^\circ+1}$$

$$=\csc50^\circ\sqrt{(3\sin50^\circ-1)^2}$$

$$\text{(Taking the positive root.)}$$

$$=\csc50^\circ(3\sin50^\circ-1)$$

$$=3-\csc50^\circ$$ $$\text{So }a=3\text{ and }b=-1$$

Ian Miller
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There is not a unique solution; we will be able to provide a solution as a function of $a$. Note that if $a = 0$, then $ab=0$. Henceforth, assume $a \neq 0$.

Let $x = \sin(50^\circ) \neq 0$ and $b = c/a$ so that we wish to solve for $c$. Then the given equation is $$ \sqrt{9 - 8 x} = a + \frac{c}{a x} \text{.} $$ Squaring, we get $$ 9 - 8 x = a^2 + \frac{2 c}{x} + \frac{c^2}{a^2 x^2} \text{.} $$ (And we will remember to check all solutions back in the original equation since this step may have introduced spurious solutions.) Multiply through by $a^2 x^2$ and collect everything on the right (then swap sides): $$ c^2 + 2a^2 x c + a^2 x^2( a^2 + 8 x - 9) = 0 \text{.} $$ Applying the quadratic formula, \begin{align*} c &= \frac{ -2 a^2 x \pm \sqrt{4 a^4 x^2 - 4a^2 x^2(a^2 + 8 x - 9)}}{2} \\ &= -a^2 x \pm a x \sqrt{a^2 - a^2 - (8 x - 9)} \\ &= -a^2 x \pm a x \sqrt{9 - 8 x} \text{.} \end{align*} Plugging back in to the first display above, we quickly see that the $+$ choice works and the $-$ choice does not. Converting back to the original symbols, the solution is $$ ab = -a \sin(50^\circ) \left(a - \sqrt{9 - 8 \sin(50^\circ)}\right) \text{.} $$ Happily, when $a=0$, this is also $0$, so we do not need to report the solution piecewise.

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