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Once upon a time as a high school freshman I stumped all the math teachers and tutors by asking them to solve for y in the in the equation $y^x = x^y$. I asked Wolfram alpha to solve for y and it returns $$y = \frac{xW(-\frac{\log{x}}{x})}{\log{x}}$$ which is completely non intuitive. By the way, W(x) is the solution, y, to the equation $ye^y=x$, also known as the Lambert W function. I haven't been able to find much online about deriving this equation and was wondering if anyone could derive this for me? I'm a calculus student so I would appreciate it if the explanation could be in terms simple enough for me to understand.

Ryan
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  • You didn't say whether you wanted x and y to be integers or real. The wolfram answer gives you real solutions, but doesn'the readily point you to the integer solutions – Χpẘ Apr 03 '17 at 05:57

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$$y^x = x^y$$

I will assume $x>0$ and $y>0$ the first is what the formula suggests.

First start by taking logarithms on both sides,

$$x \ln y=y \ln x$$

This gives,

$$\frac{\ln y}{y}=\frac{\ln x}{x}$$

Now using $\ln (y^{-1})=-\ln y$ we have,

$$\frac{1}{y} (-\ln y)=-\frac{\ln x}{x}$$

$$\frac{1}{y}\ln (\frac{1}{y})=-\frac{\ln x}{x}$$

$$e^{\ln (\frac{1}{y})} \ln (\frac{1}{y})=-\frac{\ln x}{x}$$

Then let $u=\ln (\frac{1}{y})$

Then we have,

$$ue^u=-\frac{\ln x}{x}$$

$$u=W(-\frac{\ln x}{x})$$

$$\ln (\frac{1}{y})=W(-\frac{\ln x}{x})$$

From which you find,

$$\frac{1}{y}=e^{W(-\frac{\ln x}{x})}$$

$$=\frac{-\frac{\ln x}{x}}{W(-\frac{\ln x}{x})}$$

And your formula falls out by inverting both sides. (Note: your formula is off by a negative sign, as expected by the derivation). To be precise we must assume $x \neq 1$, otherwise at the very last step we would be dividing by $0$. In the case $x=1$, $y=1$ is trivial.


The last step holds by the definition. Note for $W(x) \neq 0$:

$$W(x)e^{W(x)}=x \implies e^{W(x)}=\frac{x}{W(x)}$$