$$ax+by=c$$ $$ax^2+by^2=d$$ where $ab\neq 0$ and $x,y$ are coprime?
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1Well, the second implies that $abx^2+(by)^2=bd\implies abx^2+(c-ax)^2=bd$ so you have a quadratic equation. – lulu Oct 26 '19 at 20:30
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I agree. However, I will have to establish conditions to ensure that the discriminant is a perfect square and another one to make sure that the solutions are not rationals but integers, I wonder if it's the only method. – NumThcurious Oct 26 '19 at 20:35
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But those conditions are real...not artifacts of the method. One way or another you are going to have to grapple with them. The discriminant is pretty ugly...removing a stray factor of $4$ I get $\Delta=a^2c^2-c^2ab-c^2a+ab^2d+abd$ which doesn't look promising, though anything is possible. I would check that discriminant, by the way. I did it very hastily and it could easily be wrong. – lulu Oct 26 '19 at 20:42
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I appreciate your input @Lulu. – NumThcurious Oct 26 '19 at 20:44
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I just tried something different: – NumThcurious Oct 26 '19 at 20:51
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I just tried something different: $$a=\frac{ dy-c}{y-x}$$ $$b=\frac{c-dx}{y-x}$$ We set $$y=x+e$$ Then $$x=\frac{c-be}{d}$$ $$y=\frac{c-be}{d}+e$$. I just need to pick my $e$ such that $x$ is an integer. What are your thoughts? – NumThcurious Oct 26 '19 at 20:57
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1Well...just looking at the bottom lines, if we let $c=be$ then you get $x=0, y=e$ independent of $a,d$ which seems wrong. – lulu Oct 26 '19 at 21:01
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1I suggest working a number of examples; including cases where there are no integer solutions for $x,y$. Perhaps some useful pattern emerges. – lulu Oct 26 '19 at 21:03
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When $x=0$ That yields the degenerate cases where $y=\pm 1$ – NumThcurious Oct 26 '19 at 21:08
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Instead of solving for (real) roots (or trying it) I'd propose to start with looking $\pmod a$,$\pmod b$ and so on. – Gottfried Helms Oct 30 '19 at 16:15
3 Answers
You can solve this by talking the first equation and solving for y. Then substituting y in the second equation, as so:
$$ax+by=c$$
$$ax-c=-by$$
$$(ax-c)/(-b)=y$$
Now substitute into second equation:
$$ax^{2}+\frac{b\left(ax-c\right)^{2}}{b^{2}}=d$$
Expand:
$$ax^{2}+\frac{a^{2}x^{2}-2acx+c^{2}}{b}=d$$
Simplify:
$$\frac{bax^{2}}{b}+\frac{a^{2}x^{2}-2acx+c^{2}}{b}=d$$
$$\frac{bax^{2}+a^{2}x^{2}-2acx+c^{2}}{b}=d$$
Subtract d from both sides:
$$\frac{bax^{2}+a^{2}x^{2}-2acx+c^{2}-bd}{b}=0$$
Simplify more...
$$\frac{\left(a^{2}+ba\right)}{b}x^{2}-\frac{2ac}{b}x+\frac{\left(c^{2}-bd\right)}{b}=0$$
This is just a quadratic. You can solve it with the quadratic equation:
$$x=\frac{-g+\sqrt{g^{2}-4fh}}{2f}$$
And
$$x=\frac{-g-\sqrt{g^{2}-4fh}}{2f}$$
Where $$f=\frac{\left(a^{2}+ba\right)}{b}$$
$$g=-\frac{2ac}{b}$$
$$h=\frac{\left(c^{2}-bd\right)}{b}$$
Try it out: https://www.desmos.com/calculator/dw9xe3ppxe
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@Max0815 f is the coefficient of x^2, g is the coefficient of x, and h is the constant. Related to a, b, and c respectively in the quadratic formula. – BanePig Oct 26 '19 at 22:13
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1@zwim This will find the solutions to the system. Whether they are integers is dependent on a, b, c, and d. This can be used to determine whether they are or are not integers. – BanePig Oct 27 '19 at 12:48
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Welcome to mathematics SE. Have a look at mathjax. It will help you write equation. – Alain Remillard Nov 04 '19 at 15:47
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Above simultaneous equation shown below:
$ax^2+by^2=d$
$ax+by=c$
Taking, $(a,b,c,d)=(4,5,22,56)$ we get:
$(x,y)=(3,2)$ & $(x,y)=(17/9,26/9)$
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