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I'm trying to apply the probability addition rule to the problem below.

There are 12 different socks in a drawer. The table below shows the different varieties:

Thickness chunky (C) or thin (T)
Style stripy (S) or dotty (D) or plain (P)
Colour red (R) or blue (B)
Thickness Style Colour
C S R
C S B
C D R
C D B
C P R
C P B
T S R
T S B
T D R
T D B
T P R
T P B

Based on the table, some simple observations:

  • Probability that a chunky sock is taken out: 6:12
  • Probability that a stripy red sock is taken out: 2:12

This is where i'm getting confused based on applying the laws:

  • Probability that a dotty and red sock is taken out:

    • probability of dotty sock = 4:12
    • probability of red sock = 6:12
    • applying multiplication law, probability of dotty and red sock = 4/12 * 6/12 = 1:6
    • 1:6 seems to correctly reflect observed data in table, so I assume multiplication law is correctly applied in this case?
  • Probability that a sock that is neither plain nor blue is taken out:

    • probability of plain sock = 4:12
    • probability of blue sock = 6:12
    • applying addition law, probability of plain or blue sock = 4/12 + 6/12 = 10:12
    • therefore probability of neither plain or blue sock is everything else i.e 2:12 = 1:6
    • observed data in table suggest this should be 4:12 = 1:3
    • What might be wrong in my understanding of the problem and/or application of the addition law?
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The probability that a dotty and red sock is taken is 1:6 is correct.
The mistake in the second method:
Let A be one event and B be the second event.
Neither A nor B means (not A) and (not B)
The probability that neither A nor B is selected is $P($not $A) \cdot P($not $B)$
In your case,
Probability that a sock that is neither plain nor blue is taken out = $P($not blue$) \cdot P($not plain$)$
P(not blue)= $1 - \frac{6}{12} = \frac{1}{2}$
P(not plain) = $1 - \frac{4}{12} = \frac{2}{3}$

Probability that a sock that is neither plain nor blue is taken out = $\frac{1}{3}$

Hope this helps
EDIT:
P(A or B) = P(A) + P(B) - P(A and B)
P(A and B) = P(A).P(B) only when A and B are independent. Independent means that an effect on A does not affect B.

Basically
P(neither A nor B) = 1- P(A or B) = 1 - P(A) - P(B) +P(A and B)
Now in this question, A and B are independent so P(A and B) = P(A)P(B)
So,
P(neither A nor B) = 1- P(A or B) = 1 - P(A) - P(B) +P(A)P(B)
$---------------------------------------$ Also,
P(neither A nor B) = not(P(A)) and not (P(B))
So,
P(neither A nor B) = (1 - P(A))(1 - P(B)) = 1 - P(A) - P(B) +P(A)P(B)
You get the same result in both cases.
If you have any more doubts you can ask in the comment

  • Always struggle with that slightly awkward wording, but that makes sense. Thanks. – Harry B Dec 26 '20 at 18:30
  • Likely another misunderstanding on my part, but looking at this question/answer: https://math.stackexchange.com/questions/824060/neither-nor-logic-question

    Answer suggests they are equivalent.

    They are equivalent; that is De Morgan's Law, which states that ¬(∨)=¬∧¬

    Assume my question differs in some meaningful way from the above?

    – Harry B Dec 26 '20 at 20:07
  • @HarryB Do you know the meaning of P(A U B)? –  Dec 26 '20 at 20:41
  • @HarryB Basically, you are getting confused between P(A)+P(B) and P(A U B) –  Dec 26 '20 at 20:47
  • @HarryB Where did you learn about the additional law of probability? can you mention the source, please? –  Dec 26 '20 at 20:51
  • I do understand P(A U B), perhaps not as well as i should. No particular source but I have been trying to follow: https://courses.lumenlearning.com/introstats1/chapter/two-basic-rules-of-probability/. I'm getting a handle on my confusion, thanks for your help. – Harry B Dec 26 '20 at 21:09
  • @HarryB Do you know the fact that Probability cannot be greater than 1? If yes then think about this: Let there be event A and event B. P(A) = 2/3. P(B) = 2/3. Then what is P(A or B)? You might say it is 4/3 but the probability cannot be greater than 1 –  Dec 27 '20 at 05:07
  • @HarryB P(A or B) = P(A) + P(B)- P(A and B) This is mentioned in your source also. So P(A or B) is not always equal to P(A)+P(B). It is only when P(A and B) =0. –  Dec 27 '20 at 05:22
  • @HarryB I have edited the answer. –  Dec 27 '20 at 05:23
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    Thanks for taking the time to expand and explain, much appreciated. Your last edit and comments cleared up the confusion. – Harry B Dec 27 '20 at 10:56