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Just started to learn maths, so I'm sorry if this an elementary question.

The question is: here is a deck with 40 cards ; 10 cards, each 10 with one of the 4 shapes (hearts, diamonds, clubs and spades). All the cards are numbered from 1 to 10. Every card has the same probability to be drawn. We start drawing cards from the deck. If the 11th card which was drawn is the first one with number 10 on it, what is the probability that the next card is a clubs?

What I have tried: We need to find P(A|B), where A is the probability that the 12's card is a clubs, and B is the probability that the 11's card is a first ten.

I chose the sample space to be picking 12 cards from 40. $P$($\Omega$) = $\binom{40}{12}$

$P(B)$= $\binom{36}{10}\binom{4}{1}\binom{29}{1}$. Where in $P(B)$, i chose 10 cards from 36 cards(without 10's), the picking 1 card from the the 10, the choosing from the rest.

$P(A\cap B)$ = $\binom{9}{9}\binom{26}{1}(\binom{3}{1}\binom{1}{1} +\binom{1}{0})$ $+$ $\binom{9}{8}\binom{26}{2}(\binom{3}{1}\binom{2}{1}+\binom{1}{1})$ $+$ $\binom{9}{7}\binom{26}{3}(\binom{3}{1}\binom{3}{1} + \binom{2}{1})$ $+$ $\binom{9}{6}\binom{26}{4}(\binom{3}{1}\binom{4}{1}+\binom{3}{1})$ $+$ $\binom{9}{5}\binom{26}{5}(\binom{3}{1}\binom{5}{1}+\binom{4}{1})$ $+$ $\binom{9}{4}\binom{26}{6}(\binom{3}{1}\binom{6}{1}+\binom{5}{1})$$+$ $\binom{9}{3}\binom{26}{7}(\binom{3}{1}\binom{7}{1}+\binom{6}{1})$$+$ $\binom{9}{2}\binom{26}{8}(\binom{3}{1}\binom{8}{1}+\binom{7}{1})$$+$ $\binom{9}{1}\binom{26}{9}(\binom{3}{1}\binom{9}{1}+\binom{8}{1})$$+$ $\binom{9}{0}\binom{26}{10}(\binom{3}{1}\binom{10}{1}+\binom{9}{1})$ . Here, $\binom{9}{8}$ is the possibility that we choose 8 from 9 clubs ( we dont want to pick 10), $\binom{26}{2}$ is completing the picking of the rest 10 cards, $\binom{3}{1}\binom{3}{1}$ is picking 1 10 from 3 and picking a club from the 3 that left, $\binom{1}{1}$ is picking the ten of clubs and then picking the only left clubs. The rest of the calculations are the same.

So, $P(A|B) = \frac {P(A\cap B)}{P(B)} = \frac {5271351254}{29485675300} $ $ \approx $ 0.178

The correct answer is $ \frac 14$. My questions are: am I wrong, and, if so, is there a "nicer" way to compute $P(A\cap B)$(or generally solving this exercise)?

*Sorry if there are mistakes in grammar.

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  • The probability is the same for the 12th card whatever the suit specified, so it should be clear what the probabability is for the 12th card being a club – Arthur Vause Dec 07 '21 at 08:45
  • What do you mean by "If the 11's card who was drawn is the first ten" – ck1987pd Dec 07 '21 at 08:55
  • @C.Koca We pull out 10 cards from the deck ( we didn't pick a card with a number of 10), and only in the 11's card we pull a card with a number of 10. – Yoxbox Dec 07 '21 at 08:58
  • @Arthur Vause If i understand, beacuse every card has the same possibility to be drawn and there are an even amount of card ( ten from each shape) , then we can say the probability is 1/4? – Yoxbox Dec 07 '21 at 08:59
  • @Yoxbox my argument is the same as C. Koca has described in his answer – Arthur Vause Dec 07 '21 at 09:15
  • @Yoxbox It is too hard to follow your logic in the combination argument. I tried to find where you might have gotten wrong but it will take a long time :) I have to ask this though: If you remove all the clubs and all the 10s, you are left with 27 cards, not with 26 cards. Could this be the case? – ck1987pd Dec 07 '21 at 09:19
  • @C.Koca I've tried with 27 as well ( I wasn't sure if it's 26 or 27 ). Should have mentioned it, sorry. The final answer ( when 26 is replaced with 27 ) is ~ 0.27. – Yoxbox Dec 07 '21 at 09:25
  • @Yoxbox Then there might be some other logical or computational error as well. You should get the same probability with your approach, it would just take a long time. – ck1987pd Dec 07 '21 at 09:45
  • @C.Koca Yes i guess. Thanks for the help! – Yoxbox Dec 07 '21 at 10:09

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The unknown developments prior to the selection do not affect the probability of the outcome of that selection.

The key point is that you have no knowledge of the symbol of the cards for the first 11 draws. So, you cannot have any idea about the symbol of the 12th card. So, all the developments, related to the symbol of the cards are unknown to you and the initial probability do not change.

Knowing the first 10 being the 11th card however would have an impact on the number of the 12th card.

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