We see that a metric space $X$ is associated with a real valued function $d$ from $X \times X$, then, for a function $f:X \to Y$, where $(Y,d')$ is another metic space, what exactly the difficulty with the definition of a function $Df:X \to \mathbb R$ given by$$Df(x_0)=\lim_{d(y,x_0) \to 0}\frac{d'(f(x_0),f(y))}{d(x_0,y)},~x_0,y \in X.$$ If the limit is not an analytical imposibility, what to hesitate with the concept 'derivative' of metric space function $f$?
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2You cannot have a negative derivative. In $\Bbb R$ we use differences, not distances. – Henno Brandsma Dec 12 '21 at 13:43
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@Henno Brandsma Ya...I got your point. So the posibility of consistent non-negative derivative cannot be regected, right? – Riaz Dec 12 '21 at 13:47
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1One of the useful features of a derivative is to tell increasingness by sign of the derivative. You lose that if you define it this way. Also Taylor series etc. Signs matter. – Henno Brandsma Dec 12 '21 at 13:48
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@Henno Brandsma Is it the problem with 'order'?, are you telling that the differentiability is an order property? – Riaz Dec 12 '21 at 13:50
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2No, it’s about best approximation by a linear function. It’s easier generalised in topological vector spaces (and there is a whole theory for that as well). – Henno Brandsma Dec 12 '21 at 13:57
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@ Henno Brandsma Ok....fine, and thnks for providing the idea. – Riaz Dec 12 '21 at 14:01
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Related: Can we define the derivative of a function in arbitrary metric space in the following way? – Dave L. Renfro Dec 12 '21 at 18:43
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To expand on the comments already made by Henno Brandsma, for $X=Y=\mathbb{R}$ with the usual Euclidean metric your definition would yield $$f'(x_0)=\lim_{y\to x_0} \frac{|f(x_0)-f(y)|}{|x_0-y|}$$ This means that your definition does not generalize the ordinary definition from Calculus, which is a bad thing. For instance we'd get that the derivative of $y=x^2$ would be $$f'(x) = \lim_{y\to x} \frac{|x^2-y^2|}{|x-y|}=\lim_{y\to x}{|x+y|}=2|x|$$ One of the primary applications of the derivative is to determine in what intervals a function is increasing or decreasing by looking at the sign of $f'(x)$. This definition would not allow us to check this since the derivative would always be non-negative.
It could be that this definition would turn out to be interesting or useful after all, but you shouldn't call it a derivative, because it does not generalize the usual derivative from Calculus.
For another distinction, notice that for $f:\mathbb{R}^2\to\mathbb{R}^2$ we approximate a given function around a point using a linear operator from $\mathbb{R}^2$ to $\mathbb{R}^2$ (the differential, or in terms of matrices, the Jacobian matrix). The definition above would not provide us with this $2$ dimensional structure and only yield a $1$ dimensional answer.
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@RIYASUDHEENT.K You're welcome. (Edited the answer to include the case of $\mathbb{R}^2$) – Snaw Dec 12 '21 at 14:06
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Again thnks...., and I hope atleast a topolgical vector space structure is required to define the differentiability, right? – Riaz Dec 12 '21 at 14:09
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@RIYASUDHEENT.K See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fr%C3%A9chet_derivative – Snaw Dec 12 '21 at 14:10