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I see that the need to apply the product rule when using curvilinear coordinates results in a term for the derivative of the coefficients that still follows tensor transformation rules, and that it is the derivative of the bases vectors that is the problem. But can I have that product rule spelled out in tensor notation with a plain English explanation of what in the second term breaks the transformation rules for tensors?

For instance what makes the second term below not tensorial specifically?

$$\partial_{\mu'} T_{\nu'}=\frac{ \partial x^\mu}{\partial x^{\mu'}} \frac{ \partial x^\nu}{\partial x^{\nu'}} \partial_\mu T_\nu +\frac{ \partial x^\mu}{\partial x^{\mu'}}T_\nu \partial_\mu\left(\frac{ \partial x^\nu}{\partial x^{\nu'}}\right) $$

In there the $\partial \mu$ transforms like

$$\partial_{\mu'}=\frac{ \partial x^\mu}{\partial x^{\mu'}}\partial_{\mu} $$

And the idea is to transform $$\partial_{\mu}T_\nu $$

Is it the $\mu$ index or both? What summation in that second summand messes things up and why?

JAP
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  • Which derivative are referring to? If $M$ is a manfiold with connection $\nabla$ and $T$ is a rank $(k,l)$-tensor field on $M$ then $\nabla T$ is rank $(k, l+1)$-tensor field on $M$. – Matt Feb 25 '22 at 17:02
  • Can you edit your question to make sure everything that is an index is an index, and every prime is attached to the symbol it is priming? – Wolfgang Bangerth Feb 26 '22 at 04:02
  • @WolfgangBangerth Ty for bringing this up. I think it's ok now. – JAP Feb 26 '22 at 05:40

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Ok, so let's say that $T$ is a one-form as you have there, and let's make $$S_{\mu\nu} = \partial_\mu T_\nu$$explicit. Is it true that the relation $$S_{\mu'\nu'} ={\color{blue}{\frac{\partial x^\mu}{\partial x^{\mu'}}\frac{\partial x^\nu}{\partial x^{\nu'}}S_{\mu\nu}}}$$holds? Absolutely not! Because $$S_{\mu'\nu'} = \partial_{\mu'}T_{\nu'} = \frac{\partial x^\mu}{\partial x^{\mu'}} \partial_\mu\left(\frac{\partial x^\nu}{\partial x^{\nu'}}T_\nu\right) = {\color{blue}{\frac{\partial x^\mu}{\partial x^{\mu'}}\frac{\partial x^\nu}{\partial x^{\nu'}}S_{\mu\nu}}} + {\color{red}{\frac{\partial x^\mu}{\partial x^{\mu'}}\frac{\partial^2 x^\nu}{\partial x^\mu \partial x^{\nu'}}T_\nu}}. $$

Ivo Terek
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    So it's not like looking at the part in red there is a concrete mismatch in the indices, or that there is a second partial derivative, but that the mere fact of having anything at all after the part in blue will mess things up no matter what it is (other than zero)? – JAP Feb 25 '22 at 20:31
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    I just applied the product rule, so we indeed get a second derivative term. But indeed, the point is that having anything other than the term in blue messes up the tensor transformation law. So "$\partial T$" is not a tensor. – Ivo Terek Feb 25 '22 at 20:56
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The formula $$\partial_{\mu'} T_{\nu'}=\frac{ \partial x^\mu}{\partial x^{\mu'}} \frac{ \partial x^\nu}{\partial x^{\nu'}} \partial_\mu T_\nu +\frac{ \partial x^\mu}{\partial x^{\mu'}}\,T_\nu\,\partial_\mu\left(\frac{ \partial x^\nu}{\partial x^{\nu'}}\right) $$ is not tensorial because of the presence of the second term. If you take instead of the partial derivative $\partial_\mu$ the covariant derivative $$ \nabla_\mu T_\nu=\partial_\mu T_\nu-\Gamma^\rho_{\mu\nu}T_\rho $$ you get $$\tag{1} \nabla_{\mu'} T_{\nu'}=\frac{ \partial x^\mu}{\partial x^{\mu'}} \frac{ \partial x^\nu}{\partial x^{\nu'}} \nabla_\mu T_\nu $$ which is how a second rank tensor transforms. The Christoffel symbols that make this work obey \begin{equation} \Gamma^{\mu '}_{\alpha '\beta '} = \frac{\partial x^{\mu'}}{\partial x^{\gamma}}\frac{\partial^2x^\gamma}{\partial x^{\beta '}\partial x^{\alpha '}}+\frac{\partial x^{\mu'}}{\partial x^\gamma}\frac{\partial x^{\sigma}}{\partial x^{\alpha '}}\frac{\partial x^p}{\partial x^{\beta '}}\Gamma^{\gamma}_{\sigma p}. \end{equation} You can read equation (1) as $$ \nabla_{\mu'} T_{\nu'}=\frac{ \partial x^\nu}{\partial x^{\nu'}} \nabla_{\mu'} T_\nu\,. $$ In other words, unlike the partial derivative $\partial_{\mu'}$ the covariant derivative $\nabla_{\mu'}$ can be "pulled through" the term $$ \frac{ \partial x^\nu}{\partial x^{\nu'}} $$ as if that was a constant. That's the whole point of introducing the covariant derivative.

Kurt G.
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