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We know that in parabola, ellipse parametric coordinates is given by $(at^2 , 2at)$ and $(a \cos \theta,b \sin \theta)$ respectively, my query is while deriving it when we put $at^2$ into the normal parabola form of $y^2 = 4ax$ we would get $y^2 = 4a^2 t^2$, how we give a reason to reject the negative root or is it that we are making a choice here as such? Similar thing with ellipse too. Often books do this to avoid that: $y/2a = 2x/y$ but why so we can derive that parametric using this?

Gary
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We're not really "rejecting the negative root" though. Observe $\sqrt{4a^2t^2} = 2|at|$, so to recover all the values that $2at$ attains we must have $\pm\sqrt{4a^2t^2} = \pm 2|at|$.

That being said, this process is not how you would determine the parameterization of $y^2=4ax$. This graph defines $x$ as a function of $y$ as opposed to the other way around, so really we should be subbing $y(t)=2at$ into the equation and then solving for $x(t)$.

The case of ellipse is harder since we neither have $y$ as a function of $x$ nor $x$ as a function of $y$. Thus when we determine a parameterization for the ellipse it is more sensible to find a common parameterization for the two half-ellipses $y=\pm b\sqrt{1-(x/a)^2}$. Choosing $+$, it is not hard to see that if $x(t)=a\cos(t)$ then $y(t) = b\sqrt{1-\cos^2(t)} = b\sin(t)$ for $t\in [0,\pi]$. We know to take the positive root $\sin(t)$ rather than $-\sin(t)$ since $y\geq 0$ for the half-ellipse $y=b\sqrt{1-(x/a)^2}$ (assuming $b>0$).

Similarly, for half-ellipse $y=-b\sqrt{1-(x/a)^2}$, if we choose $x(t) = a\cos(t)$ for $t\in [\pi,2\pi]$ then $y(t) = -b\sqrt{1-\cos^2(t)} = -b(-\sin(t)) = b\sin(t)$. We know to take $-\sin(t)$ since $\sin(t)\leq 0$ on $t\in[0,\pi]$, so we could not have $y\leq 0$ if we took $+\sin(t)$ as the root. Yet then we've shown $(x(t),y(t)) = (a\cos(t),b\sin(t))$ parameterizes both halves of the ellipse on $[0,\pi]$ and $[\pi,2\pi]$ respectively, so it parameterizes the entire ellipse on $[0,2\pi]$.

Glare
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  • Thanks for this beautiful explanation . May you explain just the statement of" x as a function of y "? What i really doing is x = at^2 gives a x coordinate and then putting it in equation gives the correponding y values which it satifies , so in all we are finding y as a function of x isnt ? Why we want to find x as a function of y ? Reasoning ? Is it because the first method gives two values of y , but the second one gives a single value hence its prefered ? – ProblemDestroyer Apr 18 '22 at 11:33
  • If you want to substitute in something for one variable and get a unique output from the other variable, then a function is exactly what you require. But for curve in the $xy$-plane to be the graph of a function, it has to satisfy a "line test". If I want to write $y$ in terms of $x$, you use the vertical line test. The parabola equation you wrote is a sideways parabola, so it fails. Since it passes the "horizontal line test" though, you can solve for $x$ in terms of $y$. In particular: $x=f(y)$ where $f(y) = y^2/(4a)$. – Glare Apr 18 '22 at 13:14
  • Further comment: in general things that are the graphs of functions are easy to parameterize. There's always an independent variable (input) and dependent variable (output). Since $s=at$ is our parameter, we substitute $s$ in for $y$ (our independent variable) and then find $x=f(s)$ (our dependent variable). Thus $(f(s), s) = (s^2/(4a),s) = (at^2,at)$ is the natural parameterization of the parabola. – Glare Apr 18 '22 at 13:19
  • Thanks a lot Glare :) – ProblemDestroyer Apr 18 '22 at 13:36