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Problem: $a@b = \frac{a+b}{ab+1}$. Solve limit: $\lim_{n \to \infty}(2@3@...@n)$.

I've tried to solve this problem by just calculating: $$2 @ 3 = 0.714$$ $$2 @ 3 @ 4 = 1.222$$ $$2 @ 3 @ 4 @ 5 = 0.875$$ $$2 @ 3 @ 4 @ 5 @ 6 = 1.1$$

I found the pattern. The first number is less than 1, then the next is greater than 1, the next is less than 1, and so on. So the limit must be 1. But how to explain it mathematically?

I've tried to transform this: $$(n-1)@n = \frac{2n-1}{n^2-n+1}$$ $$n@(n+1) = \frac{2n + 1}{n^2+n+1}$$ But it didn't help me to understand the method how to solve it. I think there should be a simple idea, which I don't see. I appreciate all hints.

Maximax67
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Let $$x_n=2@3@...@n$$ and $$y_2=\frac1{x_2},\quad y_3=x_3,\quad y_4=\frac1{x_4},\quad y_5=x_5\dots.$$ Then, $$y_n=\frac{y_{n-1}+\frac1n}{1+\frac1ny_{n-1}}$$ hence $$y_n=\tanh\sum_{k=2}^n\operatorname{artanh}\frac1k$$ so $(y_n)$ is positive, increasing, and $<1,$ whence the behaviour of $(x_n)$. Moreover, from $\operatorname{artanh}x\sim_{x\to0}x$ and $\sum_{k\ge2}\frac1k=+\infty$ we deduce $\sum_{k\ge2}\operatorname{artanh}\frac1k=+\infty,$ so $$\lim_{n\to\infty}y_n=\lim_{+\infty}\tanh=1\quad\text{hence}\quad\lim_{n\to\infty}x_n=1.$$

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It holds that $\lim x_n = x$ if and only if every subsequence of $x_n$ contains, in turn, a subsequence that converges to $x$.

Check that the subsequence of even partial terms is strictly increasing and of odd partial terms is strictly decreasing.

Take any subsequence of the initial sequence. If it contains odd partial terms infinitely often, then it contains a subsequence converging to $1$. Otherwise, if it eventually contains only even partial terms, it again contains a subsequence converging to $1$. Thus, the initial limit is $1$.


Let's examine odd partial terms, say. It is readily verified that $@$ is associative and

$$ a@b@c = \frac{a+b+c+abc}{ab+bc+ca+1}.$$ My pre-edit answer is redundant. Also, the upper bound of $1+\frac{1}{n}$ does not hold, I miscalculated. We'll have to be more lenient with the bound. We'll accept odd partial terms being $>1$ as given.

It suffices to check that $$ 2@3@\ldots @2n \leqslant 1+\frac{1}{\sqrt{n}},\quad n\in\mathbb N $$ Base case holds. Suppose $A:= 2@3@\ldots @2n \leqslant 1+\frac{1}{\sqrt{n}}$ for some $n$. Then $$ \begin{align*} A@(2n+1)@(2n+2) &= \frac{A+(2n+1)+(2n+2)+A(2n+1)(2n+2)}{A(2n+1)+(2n+1)(2n+2)+A(2n+2)+1} \\ &\leqslant \frac{A+(2n+1)+(2n+2)+A(2n+1)(2n+2)}{(2n+1)+(2n+1)(2n+2)+(2n+2)+1} \\ &= \frac{(4n+3) + A((2n+1)(2n+2)+1)}{(2n+1)+(2n+1)(2n+2)+(2n+2)+1} \\ &\leqslant \frac{(4n+3) + (1+\frac{1}{\sqrt{n}})((2n+1)(2n+2)+1)}{(2n+1)+(2n+1)(2n+2)+(2n+2)+1} \\ &= \frac{4\sqrt{n^3} + 4n^2 + 10n + 6\sqrt{n} + \frac{3}{\sqrt{n}}+6}{4n^2 + 10n+6} \\ &\overset{?}\leqslant 1+\frac{1}{\sqrt{n+1}} \end{align*} $$ The last inequality is a matter of direct verification. It suffices to check $$\frac{4\sqrt{n^3}+6\sqrt{n}+\frac{3}{\sqrt{n}}}{4n^2+10n+6} \leqslant \frac{1}{\sqrt{n+1}}. $$ Note that $$ \frac{4n^2+6n+3}{\sqrt{\frac{n}{n+1}}} \leqslant 4n^2+10n+6 \Leftrightarrow 8n(n+1)(4n+3)\geqslant 3, $$ the right hand statement is evidently true. Even partial terms can be tackled analogously.

AlvinL
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  • Thank you. I understood the main idea. But could you please explain this in more detail? How to prove that subsequence of even partial terms is strictly increasing and subsequence of odd partial terms is strictly decreasing? Maybe this is a stupid question, but I can't figure out how to do it. – Maximax67 Jan 29 '23 at 12:11
  • @Maximax67 I explained odd partial terms, hope that makes it clearer. – AlvinL Jan 29 '23 at 12:36
  • Thank you very much! – Maximax67 Jan 29 '23 at 12:37
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    While the even partial terms are strictly increasing and the odd partial terms are strictly decreasing, and both these subsequences are bounded by $1$, it's still necessary to prove that both converge to $1$ (but not two different limits away from $1$). – peterwhy Jan 29 '23 at 16:16
  • @peterwhy My previous answer is redundant, I corrected the squeezing argument with a correct bound. – AlvinL Jan 31 '23 at 09:43
  • @Maximax67 the strict inequality business is redundant, I edited the answer with a more straightforward approach. The main argument remains the same, however. – AlvinL Jan 31 '23 at 10:15
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$\DeclareMathOperator{@}{\operatorname@}$ As noted in a comment, the $\@$ operator is associative.

By expanding $(a\@ b\@c)$ and $(a\@b\@c\@d)$:

$$\begin{align*} a\@b &= \frac{a+b}{ab+1}\\ (a\@b)\@c &= \frac{\frac{a+b}{ab+1}+c}{\frac{a+b}{ab+1}c+1}= \frac{a+b+c(ab+1)}{(a+b)c + ab+1} = \frac{abc + a+b+c}{ab+ac+bc+1}\\ (a\@b\@c)\@d &= \frac{\frac{abc + a+b+c}{ab+ac+bc+1}+d}{\frac{abc + a+b+c}{ab+ac+bc+1}d+1}\\ &= \frac{abc + a+b+c + (ab+ac+bc+1)d}{(abc + a+b+c)d + ab+ac+bc+1}\\ &= \frac{abc+abd+acd+bcd + a+b+c+d}{abcd + ab+ac+ad+bc+bd+cd + 1} \end{align*}$$

Note that the numerators and denominators seem to be sums of the elementary symmetric polynomials of $2$, $3$ or $4$ variables. Define a polynomial $f_n(x)$ for $n\ge 2$,

$$\begin{align*} f_n(x) &= (2x+1)(3x+1)\cdots (nx+1)\\ &= (2\cdot 3\cdots n)x^{n-1} + \cdots + (2+3+\cdots + n) x + 1 \end{align*}$$

(Note that, as in the question, here $n$ is in the largest operand, not the number of operands or partial terms.)

Then the denominators of the partial terms seem to be the sum of the coefficients of $x^0$ and every second term; the numerators of the partial terms seem to be the sum of the coefficients of $x^1$ and every second term.

Claim that

$$\begin{align*} 2 \@3\@\cdots \@n &= \frac{\frac12\left[f_n(1)- f_n(-1)\right]}{\frac12\left[f_n(1)+ f_n(-1)\right]}\\ &= \frac{3\cdot4\cdots(n+1) - (-1)^{n-1}\cdot 1\cdot2\cdots(n-1)}{3\cdot4\cdots(n+1) + (-1)^{n-1}\cdot 1\cdot2\cdots(n-1)}\\ &= \frac{(n-1)!\cdot \left[\frac{n(n+1)}2+(-1)^n\right]}{(n-1)!\cdot \left[\frac{n(n+1)}2-(-1)^n\right]}\\ &= \frac{n(n+1)+2(-1)^n}{n(n+1)-2(-1)^n} \end{align*}$$

For the base case $n=2$,

$$\begin{align*} LHS &= 2\\ RHS &= \frac{2\cdot3+2\cdot(-1)^2}{2\cdot3-2\cdot(-1)^2} = \frac{8}4 = 2 \end{align*}$$

Assume for some integer $k\ge 2$ that the claim is true:

$$2\@3\@\cdots \@k = \frac{k(k+1)+2(-1)^k}{k(k+1)-2(-1)^k}$$

Then for the $n=k+1$ case,

$$\begin{align*} LHS &= 2\@3\@\cdots\@k\@(k+1)\\ &= \left[\frac{k(k+1)+2(-1)^k}{k(k+1)-2(-1)^k}\right] \@ (k+1)\\ &= \frac{\left[\frac{k(k+1)+2(-1)^k}{k(k+1)-2(-1)^k}\right]+(k+1)}{\left[\frac{k(k+1)+2(-1)^k}{k(k+1)-2(-1)^k}\right](k+1)+1}\\ &= \frac{k(k+1)+2(-1)^k+\left[k(k+1)-2(-1)^k\right](k+1)}{\left[k(k+1)+2(-1)^k\right](k+1)+k(k+1)-2(-1)^k}\\ &= \frac{k(k+1)(k+2)-2(-1)^kk}{k(k+1)(k+2) + 2(-1)^kk}\\ &= \frac{(k+1)(k+2)+2(-1)^{k+1}}{(k+1)(k+2)-2(-1)^{k+1}}\\ &= RHS \end{align*}$$

So by induction, for integers $n\ge 2$,

$$\begin{align*} 2 \@3\@\cdots \@n &= \frac{n(n+1)+2(-1)^n}{n(n+1)-2(-1)^n} \end{align*}$$

Taking the limit when $n\to \infty$,

$$\begin{align*} \lim_{n\to\infty}(2 \@3\@\cdots \@n) &= \lim_{n\to\infty}\frac{n(n+1)+2(-1)^n}{n(n+1)-2(-1)^n}\\ &= \lim_{n\to\infty}\frac{1+\frac{2(-1)^n}{n(n+1)}}{1-\frac{2(-1)^n}{n(n+1)}}\\ &= \frac{1+0}{1-0}\\ &= 1 \end{align*}$$

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