I know that the question was posted here somewhere but the technics used to solve it were obscure to me as I didn't learn them yet. And I was given this question in middle school so I think it should be possible using basic math, but I still don't know how. The question is in the title but I'll rewrite it: $x$ and $y$ are two real numbers such that: $1 \leq x^2 + y^2 - xy \leq 2$ Show that: $\frac{2}{9} \leq x^4 + y^4 \leq 8$ Any help is really appreciated. Btw the problem is posted here as well as I said How can I prove that $2/9<x^4+y^4<8$?
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If you have seen the identical question on this site before then please add a link to that older question. – Martin R Oct 30 '23 at 11:48
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What happens if you write this equation in polar coordinates? – Dominique Oct 30 '23 at 11:48
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Oh sorry for that, here's the link: https://math.stackexchange.com/questions/1145506/how-can-i-prove-that-2-9x4y48 – Pritchard Oct 30 '23 at 11:56
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And for the polar coordinates, I don't know what these are as I'm in middle school – Pritchard Oct 30 '23 at 12:01
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Here is another iteration of this question: https://math.stackexchange.com/questions/2543012/proving-a-given-inequality-frac29x4y48 – Kuzja Oct 30 '23 at 12:01
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But in this second literarion, the question hasn't been answered – Pritchard Oct 30 '23 at 12:04
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This might help. Set $a=x^2+y^2$ and $b= x y$ – Lozenges Oct 30 '23 at 12:08
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Let $x=u+v$ and $y=u-v$, then the condition gives $$1\leq u^2+3v^2\leq 2$$ and the inequality to be proved is equivalent to $$\frac{1}{9}\leq u^4+v^4+6u^2v^2\leq 4$$ which can be easily proved by $u^4+v^4+6u^2v^2\geq \frac{(u^2+3v^2)^2}{9}$ and $u^4+v^4+6u^2v^2\leq (u^2+3v^2)^2$
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But why are u letting x= u+v and y=u-v? Aren't x and y different numbers and have no relation? – Pritchard Oct 30 '23 at 19:09
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It's just an ad hoc change of variables that happens to make the formula simpler. It tates like to represent a bunch of numbers (2 numbers here) with their average and variance. – Jihai Zhu Oct 31 '23 at 14:57