Before, I tried to prove that when an equalateral polygon’s sides increases, the ratio of the circumference/diameter (or perimeter/height) gets closer to $\pi$. So I made an equation to divide the perimeter of a polygon by its height, which is x/tan((((x-2)*180)/x)/2)=pi (I simplified it), and $x$ represents how many sides the polygon has (except for a triangle) and I was correct, when $x$ increases the answer becomes closer and closer to $\pi$, so when a polygon with $x$ number of sides approaches infinity the circumference/diameter approaches $\pi$. So in the equation x/tan((((x-2)*180)/x)/2)=ou isn’t the value of $x$ how many sides a circle has? I don’t think it’s possible to simplify but if it were possible, then maybe there could be an expression written to show how many sides a circle has.
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What’s your background? Have you read about limits? – Soham Saha Dec 16 '23 at 12:39
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I kind of understand limits but i havent learned it, was i supposed to write lim x-->infinity? – cheeseballs123 Dec 16 '23 at 12:54
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1Actually the result you have got is actually a limit based concept: when x approaches infinity, the value of your function approaches pi – Soham Saha Dec 16 '23 at 13:39
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Your "simplified" expression actually simplifies further: \begin{align} \frac{x}{\tan\left({\left(\dfrac{(x-2)\times180^\circ} {x}\right)}/2\right)} &= \frac{x}{\tan\left({\dfrac{(x-2)\times180^\circ}{2x}}\right)} \\ &= \frac{x}{\tan\left({\dfrac{180x^\circ - 360^\circ}{2x}}\right)} \\ &= \frac{x}{\tan\left(90^\circ - \dfrac{180^\circ}{x}\right)} \\ &= \frac{x}{\cot\left(\dfrac{180^\circ}{x}\right)} \\ &= x \tan\left(\dfrac{180^\circ}{x}\right). \end{align}
So you are calculating the perimeter of a polygon circumscribed about a circle of diameter $1$.
It is true that as $x\to\infty$, the perimeter approaches $\pi$ and the shape of the polygon approaches a circle, so you could say that in as the shape approaches the circle the number of sides approaches infinity. However, the existence of a limit tells us nothing about what happens at the limiting condition, only what happens near the limiting condition.
The circumference of the circle is the length of a curved path, for which we need a definition of how to measure that length. It happens that the commonly used definition for length of a curved path says that the limit of the polygons' perimeter is also the circumference of the circle. But that definition says nothing about the "sides" of a curved path or in particular the "sides" of a circle.
By the usual definitions, a circle has no sides at all (in the sense of "side" that we use for polygons), because a side is a straight path between two distinct points, and there is no part of the circle that matches this description.
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oh my god i never realised it simplified to xtan(180/x) how did you even find that out i was trying to simplify that equation for 4 months, thanks i didnt even realise, and yeah i know it only approaches infinity and it isnt infinity, i made that equation based on the interior angles of polygons and the formula for the total interior angles, (x-2)*180 where x is supposed to be how many sides the polygon has but i just took advantage of this and assumed that x IS the sides of a polygon which is obviously untrue and not enough proof in this equation thanks for helping – cheeseballs123 Mar 08 '24 at 23:03