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Taking the derivative of any kind of function is easy but I don't know why we take the derivative? Like

$f(x)=x^2$ has the derivative $2x$,

so what does it mean? I don't know how to define dy/dx? Understanding derivative and Integral in terms of physics becomes hard. Like [here]: (https://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/136139/electric-flux-integral-of-e-with-respect-to-a-is-equal-to-total-electric-fl) edit: I don't think it's a duplicate of other question. I've studied Derivative and Integral in maths but when it comes to physics it needs to have concept in our mind. Like thisHow would someone describe the integral parts in both the lines?

Ahmad
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  • Have you read this page? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derivative – taninamdar Sep 19 '14 at 16:14
  • The definition of the derivative is $f'(x) = \lim_{y \to x} (f(y) - f(x))/(y-x)$. That may or may not provide intuition, however. – Joshua Mundinger Sep 19 '14 at 16:17
  • What is speed with respect to distancec (expressed as a function of time) ? – Claude Leibovici Sep 19 '14 at 16:20
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    One way to think of it is like this. Imagine you have the graph of a function (which looks like a curve). If you zoom in on a point on the curve, the curve looks more and more like a line. The derivative is the slope of that line. – Akiva Weinberger Sep 19 '14 at 16:23
  • Loosely speaking, a derivative can be thought of as how much one quantity is changing in response to changes in some other quantity"I understand nothing what is written here?" this is simple to understand but isn't that a just a function's briefing. My problem is apart form it. :) – Ahmad Sep 19 '14 at 16:34

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The derivative function says how fast the original function is changing at each point. If $f(t)$ is the position of a particle or a rocket ship at each time $t$, then the derivative $f'(t)$ is the speed of the particle or the rocket ship at time $t$.

Consider as an example $f(t) = -5t^2 + 20t$. Suppose this describes the height of a rocket above the ground at time $t$. This curve is a downward-facing parabola with $f(0) = f(4) = 0$ and the peak of the parabola at $f(2) = 20$:

parabola

At $t=0$ we have $f(t) = 0$ and the rocket is on the ground. The rocket goes up, quickly at first, then more slowly, until at $t=2$ it stops going up and starts to come down, slowly at first, then more quickly as time goes by, until it hits the ground again at $t=4$.

The derivative of $f$ is the speed of the rocket. $$f'(t) = -10 t+20.$$

parabola with derivative

The derivative is the blue line in the picture. It represents the upward speed of the rocket at each point. When $t=0$, the derivative has the value $20$, representing a fast upward motion. When $t=1$, the upward speed has decreased to $10$. When $t=2$, the rocket has reached the peak of its flight and has stopped going up and is about to come back down. $f'(t) = 0$, meaning that the rocket has no motion at this instant. Then at $t=3$ the derivative is $-10$, which represents a downward motion, and at $t=4$ when the rocket hits the ground its downward motion is twice as fast, since $f(4) = -20$.

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Let's assume that you want to measure the amount of the slope between two points on the function $f(x)$, which are $f(x)$ and $f(x+h)$. This is defined as: $$M(h)=\dfrac{f(x+h)-f(x)}{h}$$. $M$ is actually the slope of the secant line which joins the points $(x,f(x))$ and $(x+h,f(x+h))$. Notice that, when we determine a fixed $x$ value, $M(h)$ is a function of $h$ actually, when you plug in an arbitrary $h$ into it, it returns the slope of the secant line between $(x,f(x))$ and $(x+h,f(x+h))$.

Now, think that you want to measure the slope of the tangent line which only touches $(x,f(x))$. Intuitively, one wishes to plug $h=0$ into $M(h)$ and get the slope eventually. But this is not possible since $M(h)$ is not defined at $h=0$: This causes a division by zero. But still, we can make a very educated guess about the slope of the tangent: If the function $M(h)$ is well behaving around $h=0$, which means that the value of $M(h)$ gets closer and closer to a certain value, say, $L$, as $h$ gets closer to $0$, we say that the limit of $M(h)$ as $h \to 0$ is $L$. More precisely, it is $\lim_{h \to 0} M(h) = L$. If $L$ does really satisfy the definition of limit at $h=0$ then it is the "most natural" value which we can fill into $M(0)$, more technically, it is the value which ensures the continuity of the function $M(h)$ at $h=0$.

For this reason, we can pick $L$ as our slope for the tangent of the function at $(x,f(x))$. More rigorously, it is the value

$$\lim_{h \to 0}\dfrac{f(x+h)-f(x)}{h}$$ and it is derivative of the function $f(x)$ at the point $(x,f(x))$. Note that if this limit does not exist ($M(h)$ is not well behaving around $h=0$), then we say that the derivative does not exist at that $x$.

This is a kind of mixed definition of the derivative, which has both analytic and geometrical interpretation in it. Hope it helps.