Questions tagged [cardinals]

This tag is for questions about cardinals and related topics such as cardinal arithmetics, regular cardinals and cofinality. Do not confuse with [large-cardinals] which is a technical concept about strong axioms of infinity.

Cardinality is a notion of size for sets, usually denoted by $|A|$ as the "cardinality of $A$". With finite sets the cardinality is simply the number of elements which are members of a set.

Dealing with infinite sets we can measure them in different ways. Cardinal numbers are very natural in the sense that they do not require extra structure (such as relations and operations defined on the set to be preserved).

In formal terms, suppose $f\colon A\to B$ (i.e. $f$ is a function whose domain is $A$ and its range is a subset of $B$).

We say that $f$ is injective if $f(a)=f(b)$ implies $a=b$; we say $f$ is surjective if its range is all $B$, namely for any $b\in B$ there is $a\in A$ such that $f(a)=b$.

If $f$ is both surjective and injective we say that $f$ is a bijection from $A$ to $B$. The inverse of a bijection is also a bijection.

Now we can define an equivalence relation on sets, $A\sim B$ if and only if there is some $f\colon A\to B$ which is a bijection.

Assuming the Axiom of Choice, we have that every set can be well ordered, and therefore there is a least ordinal which is equivalent to $A$, so we can assign it as a canonical representative for the equivalence class, usually denoted by $\aleph_\alpha$ where $\alpha$ is an ordinal, or as general Greek letters such as $\kappa,\lambda$.

Before defining the $\aleph$ numbers we need to define initial ordinals. Let $\alpha$ be an ordinal, if there is no $\beta<\alpha$ and $f\colon\alpha\to\beta$ which is a bijection, then $\alpha$ is called an initial ordinal.

The $\aleph$ numbers are defined by transfinite induction as:

  1. $\aleph_0 = |\omega| = \omega$ (note that $\omega$ is an initial ordinal),
  2. $\aleph_{\alpha+1} = \aleph_\alpha^+$ (where the $\cdot^+$ means the smallest initial ordinal above the one defined for $\aleph_\alpha$)
  3. If $\beta$ is a limit ordinal, then $\displaystyle\aleph_\beta = \bigcup_{\delta<\beta}\aleph_\delta$ (It is easy to verify that the union of initial ordinals is an initial ordinal).

The confinality of an $\aleph$ number is the minimal cardinality of a set which is unbounded in the initial ordinal matching the $\aleph$ number.

A cardinal is called regular if its cofinality is itself, otherwise it is called singular.

Example: $\aleph_0$ is regular, because for a set to be unbounded below $\omega$ it cannot be finite.

$\aleph_1$ is also regular, every ordinal below $\omega_1$ is countable, and the union of countably many countable ordinals is just countable - which is still below $\aleph_1$.

Example: $\aleph_\omega$ is singular, recall $\displaystyle\aleph_\omega=\bigcup_{n<\omega}\aleph_n$. Therefore the set $\{\omega_n\mid n<\omega\}$ (the collection of initial ordinals whose cardinality is less than $\aleph_\omega$) is unbounded, and its cardinality is merely countable.

The question whether or not there exists $\aleph_\delta$ such that $\delta$ is a limit ordinal, but $\aleph_\delta$ is regular is unprovable in ZFC. It is known that it is consistent that there are none, but unknown that it is inconsistent that there are. Cardinals with this property are called Large cardinals and are used for consistency proofs.


In the absence of choice we can no longer have canonical representatives for the equivalence classes, and things become tricky. The class of cardinals can still be defined, however in a slightly different way - usually Scott's trick.

However, to show how things can break down it is consistent with ZF that there is no choice function on the equivalence classes (i.e. you cannot have canonical representatives).

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Cardinality of sets ($\aleph_0$, distinct elements)

Which answers are correct? $| \{1000, 1001 \}| = 2$: True. $| \{1, 2, 2, 3 \}| = 4$: False. There are only $3$ distinct elements. The cardinality of $\mathbb{N} \times \mathbb{Z}$ is $\aleph_0$: I'd say true since each element is -- distinct and…
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Cardinal numbers: if $a>2^{\omega}$, then $a^{\omega}=a$?

Here is my proof, given that $|A|=a$ and $\omega=|\mathbb{N}|$(also commonly denoted as $\aleph_0$): Let $F$ be the set of all bijections of the form from $B^{\omega}$ to $B$ where $B\subset A$ ($F$ is not empty, since…
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$\left|\prod_{j = 1}^{\infty} F\right| = |F|$ if $F$ is a no finite field?

Let $F$ be a no finite field. How can I show the equality $$ \left|\prod_{j = 1}^{\infty} F\right| = |F|? $$ The inequality $|F| \leq \left|\prod_{j = 1}^{\infty} F\right|$ is clear, but how can I show that $\left|\prod_{j = 1}^{\infty} F\right|…
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What is the cardinality of $A=\{(x,y)\in \mathbb R\times \mathbb R|(x-y=\sqrt 2) \land (x+y\in \mathbb N)\}$?

What is the cardinality of $A=\{(x,y)\in \mathbb R\times \mathbb R|(x-y=\sqrt 2) \land (x+y\in \mathbb N)\}$? I wonder if this is possible that $x-y$ is an irrational number while $x+y$ is a natural number. Could it be that $A$ is an empty set and…
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$\aleph_0 + 2^{\aleph_0} + 2^{(2^{\aleph_0})}+\dots$ is greater than the cardinality of sets $\mathbb{N}, \mathcal{P}(\mathbb{N}),\dots$

Consider cardinality $\alpha = \aleph_0 + 2^{\aleph_0} + 2^{(2^{\aleph_0})}+\dots$, the number of terms is countable. Show that $\alpha$ is the minimal cardinality larger than the cardinalities of sets $\mathbb{N}, …
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Proof of equal cardinality $|\Bbb N \times\Bbb N \times\Bbb N| = |\Bbb N|$

How do I prove that the following sets have equal cardinality? $|\Bbb N \times\Bbb N \times\Bbb N| = |\Bbb N|$ ($|\Bbb N \times\Bbb N| = |\Bbb N|$ also for that matter) $|\Bbb Z \times\Bbb Z| = |\Bbb Z|$ $|\Bbb R \times\Bbb R| = |\Bbb R|$ Thank…
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Let $S$ be a set of cardinality $c$. Let $x$ and $y$ be two distinct elements in $S$.

Let $S$ be a set of cardinality $c$. Let $x$ and $y$ be two distinct elements in $S$. How to prove that there exist two disjoint subsets $X$ and $Y$ of $S$, each of cardinality $c$, such that $x \in X$ and $y \in Y$?
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Is there an uncountable cardinal number of cofinality $\aleph_0$?

The first uncountable cardinal number $\aleph_1$ is a regular cardinal which means that its cofinality is $\aleph_1$. Is it provable in ZFC that there are uncountable cardinal numbers (bigger than $\aleph_1$) of cofinality $\aleph_0$? Or is it…
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What is the cardinality of a set of all points on a line?

When it is said that there are infitely many points on a line, does it imply anything about the cardinality of set of all points on a line? I think the answer to the question depends on the definition of a line and what is meant by the infinitely…
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If $d, e$ are infinite cardinals, then does $2^d \geq 2^e$ imply $d \geq e$?

For infinite cardinals $d$ and $e$, does $2^d \geq 2^e$ imply that $d \geq e$? I would like a proof or a counterexample. Background so far: The cardinals form a chain under $\leq$; if $e$ is an infinite cardinal with $d \leq e$, then $de = e$ and $d…
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cardinality of the euclidean n-space R

For any given $n$ determine the cardinality of the Euclidean $n$-space $$\mathbb{R}^n = \left\{(x_1, x_2, \dots, x_n) : x_i \in \mathbb{R} \text{ for all } i = 1, 2, \dots, n\right\}.$$ Are there ”more” points in the Euclidean plane $\mathbb{R}^2$,…
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Cardinality of infinite direct sum of Z/2Z

Consider the direct sum of countably many Z/2Z groups, which I'll denote by G=$⨁_n $(Z/2Z) and where the index is to keep track of each copy of Z/2Z. How is G countable? Since each Z/2Z has 2 elements,is not the cardinality 2^No?
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Cardinal of $\prod_{n}^{}2^n$

what is the cardinal of $\prod_{n}^{}2^n$? I tried to create an injective function from this formula to the natural numbers and stuck. Thanks.
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Two uncountables sets are always equinumerous?

I know that two sets are equinumerous if there exist a bijection between them, and they are uncountables if there exist another bijection between the real numbers from 0 to 1 and a set. So, as they requiere both conditions, can I maintain that they…
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Modifying Cantor's Diagonal Argument for Natural Numbers

I've been struggling with Cantor's Diagonal Argument, and reading the questions of many others which do not quite address my concerns. My concern has to do with with the non-terminating nature of Cantor's construction. Maybe the most clear way to…
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